I have been with IQ for four years. I have to say that the tone and direction of the site has recently been changing. Exchanges between members are more acrimonious, answers sometimes have nothing to do with the question being asked, and so on. Why are questions that are definitely not of a Spiritual Nature not being closed? Who decides what gets closed and what gets to stay open?
I would suggest that perhaps a few clear guidelines for subject matter that will be closed be outlined. I am especially angered at the fact that a question comparing government law to rape is being allowed to stay open when it has absolutely nothing to do with spiritual growth...
I am only suggesting that questions like the one mentioned are being asked when all they really are designed to do is promote the personal political views of one member, and that the views are not at all Spiritual in Nature. The fore-mentioned question prompted a wry exchange between members, the end result of which was the posting of the Rape Scene from the movie, Deliverance. How is this in any way spiritual? What would a visitor to the site actually gain when presented with questions that have 41 comments, all of which being exchanges between people of opposing political and legal stances?; this is wrong for IQ and does nothing to help anyone grow spiritually.
I realize that I am opening a can of worms here, and that everyone will be at each others' throats after I post this- Do you know what??? A year ago, only nerds like me were interested in IQ Meta...Now, it has become another place for everyone to argue that he or she has the right viewpoint...And EVERYONE seems to have to have the last word, even unto Death and the End of Time...(LOL) This is not why I became a member of IQ and I really wish these types of questions would quietly die a quick death, everyone realizing that they do nothing to promote spiritual matters or Manifesting.
I really am longing for the day when Peace reigns again over Inward Quest, and that any disagreements are of a spiritual nature....sigh
Who else would have the stupidity to post this question???
Of course, Jai ♥
asked Nov 28 '13 at 04:23
I assume this is about the rape question.
You can't solve a problem in life without identifying that problem in the first place. In this case, the problem is one of understanding: the question represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of rape and its devastating effects. I posted an answer to the rape question explaining that.
Difficult subjects are difficult to discuss precisely because they are difficult. Inward Quest has a long history of accepting a broad swath of questions having to do with ethics and psychology. The difficult questions are often the most interesting. Question and answer sites like this one should welcome such questions, not shun them. You've actually asked a question here about publishing your book having to do with evil in the world; how is this any different?
That said, the question must be asked in good faith. If it is apparent that the question asker is merely trying to incite an argument, promote a political position, advertise a product, attract unwarranted attention to himself, or otherwise act in a manner that is toxic to the site and its participants, we have a remedy for that. If you have a problem with a question, flag it for moderator attention, and Simon will look at it. He will make a decision, and we'll all move on, regardless of the outcome.
My usual advice for trolls applies: don't engage them. That's what they want; that's all they want. Depriving them of that attention means they'll go and bother someone else somewhere else on the Internet.
Do you mean like this question http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/88306/happy-holidays-from-jai-and-wade-what-did-you-do-for-the-holidays...this would have been a nice touch on the fb page...love and light...
answered Dec 30 '13 at 15:18
"Why are questions that are definitely not of a Spiritual Nature not being closed?"
How many questions have you asked which didn't have anything to do with spirituality & NO one objected?
Everything from going back to school & needing financing to what should I do with my alimony check. NO one objected.
Again, if you don't like a question ~ please ignore it. There are plenty of other questions to answer or ask a new one.
I thought you said you read everything that is posted on IQ . Did you miss this question & all the really great answers & comments?
I believe this thread represents the views of most of the members of IQ.
@Vesuvius ~ you may want to read these threads too.
8 downvotes & 9 upvotes. As I mentioned earlier, only 1 down-voter did NOT comment or answer his question. I understand if someone disagrees & wants to make a comment & then leaves like Nik did. Otherwise it seems to me like it could be construed as baiting or trying to incite or bashing. What about you Jai ~ why did you stay?
13 answers & only two people objected. @ikaruss21 understood the question; but at the same time took the question personally & was offended. He came charging in like a white knight on a horse trying to protect you from the word rape @jai. If it wasn't for flow, @ikaruss prob wouldn't of found or joined IQ. We haven't seen @ikaruss21 since & I miss reading his posts. Knowing @ikaruss as I think I do, I'm sure he didn't want it to end like it did. He has such a big heart & a strong sense of right & wrong. I'm willing to bet he feels bad ~ maybe even a tad responsible. Please don't ikaruss ~ not your fault.
There are some really good answers. Look at @Catherine's answer for example & her interaction with flow. Look at what @Perfect Good said. He told @flow he loved him. @Pink Diamond had no trouble understanding or answering the question. flow had a difference of opinion with @Cass. Cass is a very savvy & intelligent woman & very easily handled it. Though I do think she was justifiably annoyed. Even flow's interaction with NB was civil.
Then you arrived. You had an agenda.
Not a curse word was uttered until you arrived ~ guns blasting. (artistic license) You said you were pissed & told flow to shut the hell up. Were you emotionally distraught? ~ OR ~ did you deliberately choose the words you typed? Did you curse intentionally for effect? Did you choose your words carefully for maximum impact or were you distraught?
This is what Simon said about profanity:
So was flow emotionally upset or did he attempt to intentionally disrupt IQ? What about you Jai? Seems to me like the last paragraph applies to you.
You weren't satisfied with flow being suspended because 6 days later (Dec 3rd) you were still pounding on him. Had I not told you to stop, you probably would have continued to.
Next are a few comments I planned on making on the thread; in regards to the exchange of comments under ursixx 's answer; but decided it was best to say it here instead.
I'm NOT excusing flows behavior; but I understand why he was upset ~ frustrated by what was said by @ursixx , DB & you. flow resides in a 3rd world country where both the govt & police are corrupt. Last year 5 people per day were killed by police in Brazil. flow posted 2 links. I think he was attempting to explain part of his question.
The first link showed people in China executed for not paying taxes. @ursixx made a flip remark about not buying products made in China. Then he told him to get involved with Amnesty International. $B repeated part of what ursixx said & then told flow to shut up (stop complaining). You did as well.
Amnesty International has a large presence in Brazil for a reason & has for decades. I'm surprised @ursixx did not know this being he works with young male refugees who have been displaced by war. I wonder how many of those boys have been raped & have never talked about it? Most male rape victims will never admit it happened to them. One study I read recently stated as many as 9 out of 10 male rapes go unreported. Male rape happens all the time in prisons. Male rape happens while in the service & during war & most instances of male rape is never reported. Hasn't anyone heard of the human rights violations in Brazil? What about the torture, rape, executions, massacre & inhumane conditions at the mid evil prisonCarandiru? The police & govt haven't changed that much. Does anyone know the next Olympics is going to be held in Brazil or the World Cup or anything about the riots going on in Brazil? The riots have been featured many times on world news this last year & have been a topic of discussion. I'm interested in what's going on around the world.
I believe one of the main points flow was trying to make was ~ NOT everyone resides in N America, the UK or another civilized country. I understand why flow was astonished by comments made by Wade in regards to registering for the service in the US. I felt his frustration. Being from the US, I wasn't surprised at all. flow had no choice but to enlist the year he turned 18. He was telling the truth when he said there is NO such thing as a deferral for being a conscientious objector in Brazil. You've never heard of human right violations in Brazil? The fight against child soldiers? Child labor? Reports of slavery?
Murder of indigenous people?
@Jai ~ You berated him for not emigrating or changing the system from within. Who complains more than you, Jai? We have an advantage over flow. We live in the US. You can't even find a way to finish your last semester & get your theology degree. You were getting your college paid for because you were entitled to it & you didn't even have to get dressed or even leave your bedroom because you were taking classes online & you blew it. Why haven't you figured out a way to finish your last semester? Do my words make you feel bad even tho I'm only stating facts? How do suppose flow felt & when it comes to flow, you don't even know what you're talking about?
Are you the only one who is allowed to make mistakes? Are you the only person who hails from an abusive background or has a dysfunctional family or has suffered from a MH issue or poverty? He said he suffered abuse & suffered from depression & was suicidal. Where is your compassion? Just because he didn't go into details like you do, doesn't mean he suffered any less than you. He also doesn't have the advantages you do. He doesn't live in the US & he doesn't even have a HS diploma or too many hopes of getting one. He had to enlist in the service the year he turned 18. He was just a boy.
Bill, what were you doing there. You voted his question down. Who complained more than you did about entitlements on your Ayn Rand question? You didn't have to serve in Nam. You said you didn't get your first job till 1969 making you too old for the draft. I'm guessing you had an ed/student deferment & I do NOT blame you a bit for taking advantage of the loop hole. 2 yrs later the Veterans & families of Vietnam Vets made sure the law was changed. If there is ever another draft in the US, people with means to stay in college until they are too old to qualify for the draft won't have that option. Flow didn't even have the the CO option. So you're absolutely right Bill ~ get involved. Just not so easy in many Latin American countries. You've said often enough you don't watch the news & there's no war in your world. If you doubt anything I'm saying, read up on Brazil's corrupt government online & pick up a copy of Forbes. I recall an article not too long ago on this subject.
I'm responsible for my part too. I own it. Do you?
I'm going to end with a quote by @Stingray which he made to NB ~ I believe it fits with the quote I posted by @Simon in regards to the profanity scanner.
To be clear ~ I am NOT condoning flow's rude behavior or his choice of words. I was also on the receiving end of flow's harsh comments a month earlier. I stopped speaking because I didn't want him to get suspended. I knew he was very upset. Hindsight tells me I should have handled it different.
Had @flow been warned or banned for what he said to @Vesuvius or the first part of the comment he made to @ikaruss I would completely understand & be in agreement. I would NOT have taken the time to write up a post asking the mods to investigate further. That was NOT the REASON his account was suspended. I could have stuck to just the facts ~ but ~ since I went to the trouble to do this ~ thought I'd add my personal 2 cents.